Originally Posted by Sink r8

Ferd,

First, I think Keenster made the point earlier about this frustration, and I think we get it. I don't doubt it's irritating to you, when you promote what you think is a good idea, and you feel you're not listened to. So, I think it's fair that we should carefully listen, and try to work together to flesh out what truly was better, and use that as part of our Section 6 stuff. If nothing else, it would be basic respect. One "mea culpa" on us.

Second, I would respectfully point out that "better" is subjective. Maybe we're thick, and we don't understand everything, you know because we think with a Southern drawl and all, but not everything you guys are promoting sounds as enthralling to us as it does to you. If we give you the courtesy of truly weighing everything, can you agree that we won't always come to the same conclusion?

Third, part of the problem is that we definitely all want things to be better, and we are all focused on our Section 6. One of my concerns is that we're actually going to be expanding capital to do things the way people are comfortable with, versus doing things that make my family more comfortable. Things like money and time off.

Fourth, some of the lack of motivation you might sense from the South side comes a philosphical problem with some of your arguments. There is a bit of a problem when nearly 90% of the North guys voted for the JCBA, and now ask why it's not better.

But still, I agree that we can cut through the fog a little bit, and that there are many things that we haven't considered for Section 6, and many no-cost, or low-cost items, or even best practice items, that we should pursue.

In doing so, one thing that would help, is if the rethoric was turned down a little bit. For example, I'd like less lectures on Northern Mythology. I'm tired of hearing about a land, divided along a linguistic barrier, north of which strong muscular Norsemen rule. Wise and powerful, they spend most of the day showing off their cobra tattoos, and contemplate their numerous war trophies. Favorite among them are the bleached skulls of poor management saps, out of which they drink hydromel.

Evidently, the South part is inhabited by retarded double-breasted Girl Scouts, who spend their time earning badges in Perfect Attendance, Bending Over, and are selling cookies to try to win a trip to Stockholm. To get the t-shirt. The syndrome, they already have. Unfortunately, these Girl Scouts have stomachs too delicate for hydromel, being accustomed mostly to the taste of grape Cool-Aid and executive sperm.

Another area in which the lectures are a little tiresome is Airline Management. For example, how many times will it "revealed" to us that management is not our friend? I was, you know, a little suspicious during bankrupcty, but the light truly came on when dozens of North pilots revealed to us all about, you know, our CEO. You can only imagine how flabbergasted I was to hear that Anderson might lie to us. So, thank you for the revelations. I'll try to do well on the exam, but I hope we're done after that.

The Legal curriculum is also getting a little tiresome, and maybe a little misguided. For the record, an internet pseudonym is not a cloaking device. And a person on your team that points out that you're actually volunteering for hostage duty is not a "hostile witness", or a management lackey. Here is an instance where you too could learn a lot form a dummy.

Finally, the Union Etiquette class needs to go. I'm sick of cyber-brave people telling others things here they wouldn't dare saying in person. I'm tired of the insinuation that we are towing management's line, just because we don't think anger and tanturms are actual strategies. Truth be told, we are all around about the same kind of people. I guess you guys chant fearsome insults before you go to battle, and I guess we have "Go D-A-L-P-A!" cheers, but still we're mostly the same kind of people. The only true difference has been in the environment we worked under, and the strategies we implemented to adapt. The last time we had a similar set of circumstance was in bankruptcy. I read both T/A's that resulted, and they're not exactly leading me to sign up for another semester of Northern Mythology.

So I'll agree to do a better job listening to any idea that can help improve our mutual situation. In return, I would like to be treated with a modicum of respect. You're not alone in being disgusted. And that's because there is much typing, so many lectures, but so little listening and reading going on here lately. It only gets better when people on both sides try to make it better.

Respecfully,

Sink r8.