Originally Posted by
Model Citezen
Scoop,
The point that was trying to be made was which system delivers more money into pilots pockets. The other point was that the systems that both airlines used, should be looked at to achieve max dollars payout.
My rep told me that information WAS tracked and given at a MEC meeting and former NWA pilots more money (less pilots than DAL had... 5000 vs 7000). One month it was 4.5 times what the DAL side made (GS Flying)
I agree with you that the more time guys fly, slows down upgrades and the company will need LESS pilots on the property.
Maybe time and one half should start at 75. Its my understanding is that GS flying can only happen up to a few days before a trip left. At NWA I was always JR. in my seat. I was still able to get high time when I wanted it.
The other thing to consider..... If the company increases the ALV to 82 hours during the summer, EVERY pilot would benefit to the 1.5 times over 80.
I truly do not know what system is more beneficial , financially, to this pilot group.
For the record, I am in favor of working 75 hours MAX, but with much HIGHER pay rates!
The problem is that you really can't create an equal comparison between the two because both systems are different. The limiting factor on the 1.5 above 80 is would be the Trip Hour Credit (THC). It will limit your flying to ensure that you will have an average of 75 hours per month of flying remaining in the year/12 month period.
While the ALV's might be high now, the TLV has to run between 74 and 79 hours in a rolling 12 month period.
Also, Green slips are generally going to be same day or shorter notice day prior awards.
As a DAL-N, I really like the GS because it they are awarded in seniority order however, it allows the reserve pilots a chance to break guarantee.
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edit: sorry for the font, cant get it straightened out.