Originally Posted by newKnow

You know in my book nu post was spot on. I think I read it three times and after every sentence, in my inner thoughts I said "yes, yes!" and I got all fired up to defend "our" position. But, luckily before I posted I saw buzz's post and remembered that "our" position is the same as "your" position. The merger sucks for both sides. The SLI screwed mostly everyone. "We" lost hire date. "You" lost what your relative seniority could hold. Fine. We can cry to the cows come home.

But, at the risk of appearing partisan, there is a difference in the complaints and how they are recieved. From my view.....

Your complaints:

I am getting bumped off the 767. Response: Let's look into getting recall rights. Counter: Here's why we do it that way.

I lost my pension. Response: Let's look into getting a new DB plan. Counter: You are stupid for even suggesting it.

Our complaints:

We are a little overwhelmed. Response: You're doing a great job. Suck it up.

Our call-in -honest system was better. Any chance of going back? Response: Can't. We'd have to give it to the FA's, too.

The jumpseat booking process is too strict, too cumbersome and too complicated. Response: It's fair. Deal with it.

We don't think we all need vaccines the DC-9 can't make it to South America. Response: We got them so you have to, too.



I really hate writing an "us" versus "them" post, because I see that the merger hasn't been peachy for too many of us. I would love to work with anyone to figure out how to fix things for both "sides." I love problem solving, but hate complaining when it doesn't look to solve the problem. I also hate they dynamic that seems to be evolving on this thread and others.

Nu, was eloquent in his post in a simple way. A lot of the complaints from the north are met defensively. He is not complaining about the complaints, he is complaining how the complaints are met from many of our new brothers. Yes, they are small and trivial compared to getting bumped off your airplane or losing a pension. But, man just because they are small in comparison doesn't mean that they are not worth a good, " I see where you are coming from" or "we should change that."

I feel where you guys are coming from. I wish you had your pensions. I wish we had decent recall rights. But, bashing everything NWA is getting old. And not listening to your new brothers when we make suggestions is not very welcoming. "You're doing a great job" should not be followed by "Now shut up!"


New K Now (Can't we just get along?)