My apologies. Just so we're clear, I don't want to get fixated on what any NW pilot has in terms of retirement, whether you do or don't have a frozen DB.

I want us ALL to have a high DC contribution. I don't want want to try to offset the money any NW pilot might get via a DB fund: I want management to fund that, just as they fund the CEO retirement, and the F/A retirement, or as they service the debt, as a normal course of doing business. Every time they bring up retirement funding at the negotiating table, we should decline to discuss liabilities that they assumed in the merger.

...but of course that doesn't work when we're trying to steer money one way or another. When you're negotiating details about who gets what within pilot ranks, you're hopelessly divided, and you're [deleted] before you even get started. I would prefer the negotiation on DC contribution to be pretty short, and focused on a common % increase only.