Originally Posted by
Sink r8
My apologies. Just so we're clear, I don't want to get fixated on what any NW pilot has in terms of retirement, whether you do or don't have a frozen DB.
I want us ALL to have a high DC contribution. I don't want want to try to offset the money any NW pilot might get via a DB fund: I want management to fund that, just as they fund the CEO retirement, and the F/A retirement, or as they service the debt, as a normal course of doing business. Every time they bring up retirement funding at the negotiating table, we should decline to discuss liabilities that they assumed in the merger.
...but of course that doesn't work when we're trying to steer money one way or another. When you're negotiating details about who gets what within pilot ranks, you're hopelessly divided, and you're [deleted] before you even get started. I would prefer the negotiation on DC contribution to be pretty short, and focused on a common % increase only.
I agree, my point was mainly to point out that a good chunk of us on the NWA side arent getting much at all towards retirement. You guys get the 12% and some of our guys have a frozen plan and smaller contribution until 2012. BUT the majority of us on the bottom half of the NWA list dont have a frozen plan and or dont get the 12% until 2012 while we play "catchup". So from now until 2012 I'm getting considerably less than guys junior to me on the list that are on the DAL side.
on top of that i dont even get my longevity pay bump at DOH like whats written in the contract. We were specifically written out of getting paid the same way as the rest of the pilot group thus this complaint.
We passed resolutions to at a minimum get our pay at DOH like everyone else. the MEC shot it down and didnt even consider it even though it passed unanimously at each base it was passed.
Everyone i talk to didnt even realize this was happening and EVERYONE agrees that we should all be paid the same way per the contract, AT DOH! To write the small number of us effected out of getting paid the same way as all of you is just BS. The contract states that longevity is given on DOH so thats how it should be for ALL delta pilots.
<stepping down of pedestal>