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Lowlevel
I agree with the min. time increase (to ATP min.), but my question is, why would pay go up? When I was hired, the minimums at my airline were 1200 TT and 200 multi. The pay scale now is the same as it was then, but in the past year and a half, people were hired at 240 TT. So, if raised back to 1500 TT, the airlines would probably just keep the same pay. After all, we took that pay a few years ago when they wanted 1200 TT.
You are absolutely right. I said payrate should be adjusted. I did not say it will go up. Airline management will pay as little as they can get away with it. At XJ people used to need 1500 hours to just apply. In 2008 during the last hiring spree, they hired a few 19 to 22 year olds with 250 to 300 hours straight from UND, Embry Riddle etc with zero professional flying experience. I mean not even CFI experience. Largest aircraft they flew was a school seminole and now they were being trained to fly a 76 seat jet. And now XJ is furloughing quite a few of those guys because XJ is shrinking due to Saabs being parked in large numbers.
Payrate will not go up unless airlines are regulated by the government but that is not going to happen.
Hiring standard needs to go up. ATP, 1500 hours and documented part 135 or CFI experience and a college degree should be the minimum.