Mawk90,

I "flew with" Christ Strickland at Tyndall--that's the guy jumping out of the Viper in your avatar. I have had a long talk with him after the incident about what happened. I "flew with" T-bird 1, Spad McSpadden as well, who was the squadron commander at the time. I also flew with Spad's dad in a Navion formation of 13 this last weekend...even though he is all civilian he is also a very good pilot and a fine gentleman. So--I think I can say I've "flown with" several guys both in and out the same cockpit.

You are turning this thread into a mil verses civ rant when FECA8R is looking for constructive inputs. If you are going to sit here and crap on fighter pilots as not having had the credibility to judge whether or not flying together in combat and training makes for a good reference, could you at least have the decency to change your avatar to something you know something about?

PS--I'm the lowest Eagle in the picture--# 2 in Memorial Day fly-by. After the fly-by, digit 1 and I did several BFM engagements while 3 and 4 did the same thing. How close do I have to fly to someone to get an idea of how they fly, lead, and fight?