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Old 02-20-2010 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Is this even legal per FAR's and the Whitlow Letter? Super. This is a perfect example of how the Delta way is not better. I can name the things better at Delta on one hand. I'll try right now.

1. Hotels
2. Hourly Wages
3. Delta gives long call last day of reserve
4. I like the Delta short call/long call system as I'm junior. If I was senior, I would be ****ed as NWA let senior pilots have long call every single day of reserve except last day. It let people not senior enough for long call pick short call times in seniority order.

That's it. 4 things. 3 if you're not extremely junior. There's always a catch with the Delta way. NWA reserve pilots had the same trip and duty rigs as line holders. If a NWA pilot deviated from a deadhead, per diem was not affected. If a NWA pilot did a single deadhead on his last day, that day counted as one day towards his 5:00 average duty day (the Delta way is 5:15 average day, but deadhead days don't count). NWA guarantee was 70 for lineholders/75 for reserve, time and a half over 80. I'm honestly not sure that the Delta contract was the contract we should have used for this merger. I'm extremely grateful for the merger as I know I would be furloughed right now without the merger. I am proud to work for the largest airline in the world, but things could be a lot better. They could be a lot worse also, but lets focus on the better. Our contract needs improving, and the old NWA contract is a good place to start.
I agree.

As far as Legal goes, Its 100% legal because you're getting your required rest. Longcall is a CONTRACTUAL agreement and has nothing to do with FARs. My point is that LC was established to give extra notice not for rest. I realize that the guys that live in base likely dont care but or those of us that commute longcall is a HUGE QOL issue. LC should be a MINIMUM notice of 12 hours and have nothing to do with rest. We should get our rest then get our contractual notice. This is another thing we need to address in the contract on the next go around. Especially as more and more pilots start to commute.

disclaimer: this isnt a NWA is better argument this is sharing ideas and exposing things that could be improved. Alot of us from the NWA side are starting to see things that we can compare from our old contract and would love to get some of this stuff fixed