Originally Posted by
ReasonableMan
FTB, I don't think I explained myself correctly. Take our current pay rates which equate to FLYING hour rates and ADD to them the Preflight and Post flight pay. Ex. 3 yr 767 FO pay = 100.29/hr + 50.15 (domestic preflight time of 1 hour prior to scheduled block out) or 75.22 + 25.07 (30 min post flight pay) so a 4 day trip worth 25 hrs would pay 25*100.29+50.15 (75.22 for 1.5 int'l)+25.07 = $2582.47 (7747.41 per mo, $92968.92 annually) as opposed to $2507.25 (7521.75 per mo, $90261 annually). Doesn't seem like much but it's not such a big blow say 60% and will probably slide through. It would be in addition to any other pay raise that would be negotiated not the sole basis of our pay rates. We preflight and in some case post flight for free and should be compensated for it and many other tasks we perform while not on the clock that's all I'm saying. Ideas???
I understood what you were saying, I decided to take it one step further. As to what you are saying, I'm 100% for that as I know we'd never do such a thing as change pay to duty hours or tafb. However, we've got turns as low as 40 min. So say we reduced it to 45min before and 15min after per leg for domestic and 1.5min before and .5 after for international ocean crossings.
Looking back in 2009 for ER and 88 I'd done about $17K+ and if that'd been 3rd year pay thats $21K extra. Go 88! If you carry that out to say 12th year 88 CA pay you could be looking at somewhere between $40K-$50K extra or somewhere between $30M-$40M for Captains alone on the 88 alone.