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Old 02-25-2010 | 05:01 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
In regards to studying it:
That is simple. I do not see us swallowing the cost to the rest of the contract that we would have to take to regain the flying. It is that simple. The argument is not framed the way I want it to be. We have talked about that as well. It is not about studying it. It is what the company would require us to give up to gain it, not what the true cost would be.
Really? How do we know? Has anyone asked the question?

My sources say no. Further ALPA officially published that we don't want that flying and our MEC Chairman made the presentation some characterized as "outsourcing is good" (not a completely inaccurate characterization BTW). Hence the reason we have not asked that question.

There was a rumor that management inquired about bringing CPZ on board at current book. That sounds free to me.

Any revision to our negotiating position should begin with serious economic study. Then we need to run the result back through ALPA's own Safety Matrix to ensure our fix is effective and includes consideration of all known consequences. We can't walk in just "knowing" based on preconceived notions (and we don't).
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
If D-ALPA was willing to take the highest DCI book rates and put it here, you are correct. Alas, it is not totally about our costs. It is the total cost. The ugly truth is that the majority of the cost differences are in the rest of the airline costs.
So what? It is not ALPA's problem how they staff the mechanics, or Flight Attendants. In fact, I might even find I enjoy working with others and might could help them see the value of treating Delta passengers like gold. As a Captain, you and I would be in a position to assist our Company roll out a better product to those with Delta tickets.

As always, I encourage SAT to shut me up with the facts. But in the interim it is disappointing that all my work here has failed to help folks see the potential in our union and the direction we need to go to get things on track.