TD, yep you're off on this one. DoJet driver has a quite valid point; a mainline product that is so diluted and confused the pax don't have a clue what they're actually getting is absolutely going to drive them off. The ideal action for the Bedfordites to establish a true LCC would be to pay all ground employees the old Frontier rates without freezes, and move towards having the cookie and the TV on all the Ejets and Airbuses. Sadly, and though I stick up for you all as a pilot group, Bedford seems to be running the company far more like Johnny O these days.