Freightpuppy,

First I am glad you recovered from your medical complication and you are well.

I am speaking for myself not the other 299 so don't punish others for my opinions and observations. The majority of the 300 don't want or expect anything from the IPA we also never wanted the contract opened.

Cobra for furloughees is very standard even at ALPA and regional airlines like the one I came from. The current IPA president who was against the MOU but for other options is now in office so some are wondering about the campaign promises. When asked at the last ANC meeting they said it was noted and would look into it. I was at the ANC meeting a couple of weeks ago and it was very heated some actually walked out. Besides the technical dificulties BT bed side manner was not good. That being said I would rather have a horrible communicator and the best surgeon and I think BT is doing well.

Some very important stuff to those of us getting furloughed in 2 months are cobra benfits possibly being paid, but more important resignation of our seniority for other flying jobs over seas, Also is the lack of furlough recall language in the current contract. I feel that this will be a long furlough (many disagree and some still think it won't happen) and all the foreign contracts are 3-5 years and almost all have trainng bonds that if broken we have to pay sometimes 20-30 thousand dollars. The EB said they are looking into it.

These are not things I expect but are very important if I get an interview or a job opportunity over seas. We all know in pursuing flying jobs are not easy and take a while to get if at all. No one wants to risk loosing their recall rights to IPA/UPS.

I too do not have a flying degree, however jobs outside of aviation where I and many others live don't exist. I am not crying about it I am dealing with it the best I can. I would like to know what your degree is or are you a hottie? J/K I am not a DILF so no pharmaceutical sales for me!

The FQS is a great thing for sure no one would deny it all though some on the B&G are celebrating as if we have won and as far as I can tell it will take a while before any celebrtion. Some in the 300 just don't have enough info right now on how it will work and more important not prolong a furlough or create another furlough down the road by adding 130 FQS senior to most of us in the 300 as some are implying on the B&G.

I am sorry, but A type personalities don't ever here the words "trust me or your EB or UPS) and say okay. While I know the IPA and the EB have all of our best interests at hand sometimes it doesn't work out that way. To follow blindly or faithfully is not in most of our analytical minds. We need facts, statistics, the gouge, and more info. So we are seeing a little paranoia from those on the chopping block especially if they have seen the IPA presentation of doom and gloom.

I only know you from your posts and you seem like you have given a lot in the MOU etc for the bottom 300 thank you for that. So please be patient with those venting here remember APC is for "entitled" the Bar&Grill is for the Party Liners and a few senior cyber bullies. The bottom 300 are expected by all to just tug the party line, have faith in our EB, and keep quiet or we will label you ungreatful, entitled, weak, helping mngmnt, not unified, add insult here.

I hope all of our concerns are for nothing, but I think reality and data is showing we have entered a new era at the IPA/UPS only time will tell.

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