you know, mike you have the right attitude, we train you in the worst but u underrstand that you should not go out and rip around in the soup with minimal experience. as captspeaking said, when our program was starting, our flight instruction was outsourced to the local FBO with all skyhawks being SP's newer than 2002. These airplanes combined with one riddle and several UND grads as cfii's really helped build the confidence amongst the students. i can remember my sixth approach was the LDA/GS to roanoke, as we descended out of 6000, we could see the mountain peaks of the blue ridge on both sides of the Final Appr Course. On the way back into LYH, we shot the ILS to 100 and 1/2. That was how i learned about going down to TDZE+100 when the ALS are in sight. Anyways, train hard and fly safe.