Let's face it, pilots are the problem as well. That's why we need great leadership at ALPA and at the grass roots level as well. Pilots need to be committed to their profession. For example: Don't let non union pilots ride in your jumpseat. this will help in the cause to keep talented, experienced pilots from accepting sub standard low paying jobs at the LLCs. It's a bit more complex than that, but if pilots don't take theese jobs for those wages, companies would have to charge more for tickets etc. and the race to the bottom would come to an end. A salary for an A320 capt and fo should be the same at all airlines. One can argue that they are the same now, but that's because the LLCs put pressure on the legacies to bring it to that level.