Originally Posted by
slowplay
Portions of your history are BS.
What part? I'm quoting from what Bob Arnold told us.
Originally Posted by
slowplay
If I remember correctly Giambusso was hired in 1978. These discussions that you reference took place in 2000. Giambusso wasn't a military pilot for 22 years.
He was a military pilot BEFORE he was an ALPA member, that was his point
Originally Posted by
slowplay
I also remember that during Delta's strike prep for Contract 2000 that the only two airlines that refused to sign a Mutual Assistance Protocol were ASA and Comair.
That's right. Bob's objection was that the Delta MEC's bargaining agenda was going to harm his pilots and he said "I can't support that." Again, Bob wanted to bind Delta's RJ's. ALPA said only Delta pilots could do that, so he wanted their help. He wanted reciprocity.
Originally Posted by
slowplay
Even the non-union Skywest pilots group signed it.
Great! How much help was the student Counsel over at SkyWest? BTW these are the same non-union pilots who took 29 of ASA's airplanes while ASA was in negotiations (imagine Air France taking Delta's entire 777 and 747 fleets for an apple to apples comparison) ... the same problem Lawson was trying to get help with.
Originally Posted by
slowplay
Still, it's water under the bridge. JC Lawson hasn't been MEC Chair at CMR since 2006. Holding grudges only holds us all back. We shouldn't let the past restrict our future.
Absolutely agreed. But, there is a lot of disinformation about how our union got to be the fractured mess that it is.
We want our MEC to fight for us, but some of us hold grudges when we see other MEC's fighting for their pilots.
IMHO it is smart to consider these guys perspectives. After all, Delta bought their airlines, stripped their code and outsourced it to their competitors. It wasn't ALPA that did that, but we, as a union, should at least understand and learn from what happened.