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Old 04-05-2010 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
Sorry, hoser, you're wrong. ATL is NOT more senior, SLC and LAX only marginally so. Bottom line: no one hired prior to 2007 got kicked out of those bases, except by choice. And if anyone hired in 2007+ bought a house that is now $100,000 under water, they were a fool.

Look, I have no problem with guys commuting. We have pilots living in TPA, JAX, TYS, CHS, PNS, -- none of which were EVER a pilot base at DAL or NWA. That's fine. That's their CHOICE. I just don't think we should have to move mountains to accommodate their personal choice. That's all. Every $ spent to accommodate the additional cost to the corporation, is one dollar less that can be paid to those of us that DID elect to move to one of the many cities DAL (or NWA) had a crew base in. If your base closes, I do sympathize, and I'd be more than willing to pay positive space for 5 years, until you can move. But for the majority of commuters, who live where they live simply because they want to, I don't like making less, so they can do that.

It could happen. But when I got hired by DAL, I moved to ATL. Figured it was the safest place to be to AVOID uprooting my family. So far, its worked. No guarantees for the future. I have no disdain for the commuter, hoser. What I DO have disdain for, is the entitlement mentality, that thinks the pilot group ought to pay the price so you can live in East Bumble, just cause you want to. NO other corporation tolerates that mentality, why do we? Both of my siblings have moved to where the job was, but somehow we think pilots should be different. There isn't a six figure job out there, where you can live in ANY city in the WORLD that you want, except ours. And I respect that right. But don't make me pay for it, and those who want all these concessions for commuters are asking for that very thing.

Pineapple,
I have commuted Since 1988 and yes it was my choice. I chose to do so after the company promised that Sea base was there to stay and many guys sold homes in other bases, moved to Sea, and bought homes. 5 months later, base closes. I almost moved and was planning on it. Then and there I decided to live where I wanted because you never know what the airline is going to do. Over the years DAL and NWA have opened and closed many bases. For some commuting is not a choice. Over the life of the Call in honest policy at Nwa I used it 3 times. It ws a policy that the company had. It cost the pilot group nothing. It was not contractual in that the union gave up someting to get it. If they did I am not aware of it. I agree with Acl. It needs to be addressed. If not it will cost the company money not you. I don't want you to pay for it.(of the 3 times I used it, only once did a passenger get bumped.)