Originally Posted by
forgot to bid
Didn't we have all those bases when Delta didn't allow jumpseaters, internal or external? Or was that never the case?
Yes that is correct; however, I don't believe any of the base closures had any correlation with the jump seat issue. DAL management used the jumpseat issue as another high cost bargaining chip. As I have been saying all along. Every single thing we negotiate, or have negotiated in the past has been assigned a value. The jump seat issue cost us big time, but was definitely a must have item. The "No Furlough Clause" was also expensive but necessary.
P.S. Tangent not directed at forgot to bid: Many years ago, I was traveling through DEN and needed to JS on UAL Express. I was denied the request twice and finally had to buy an expensive last minute ticket to get where I was going. The Captain said, "If we can't ride on Delta, then you can't ride on us." It sucked and I was ticked, but he did have a point. It was futile to explain to him that management wouldn't give us the jumpseat. The bottom line was that we hadn't paid management enough to get it. Somewhere in that "bag o money" was the jumpseat, but we had not sacrificed enough in other areas to BUY the jumpseat privelege. From some of the responses I have received, I know that there are several people here that still do not understand or perhaps believe in "dollar store negotiations." Again I will emphasi: Every single item we negotiate has an assigned value. It can be a positive value or a negative value, but it has a value, real and perceived. Example: A "No Furlough Clause" is not free. A "Scope Clause" is not free. Medical Benefits are not free. OK, I'll stop, you guys get the point. Additionally, remember my "Money Bag" theory. It is a finite amount due to economics, and the bag's capacity is really only known to management. It is incumbent upon us to use the bag as a piņata, to discover it's contents, and to use the contents to our advantage.