Originally Posted by
afterburn81
I guess in contrast with some of the other threads in the forums these days the real question is, were these pilots fairly low time? What was their training background? Were there any fatigue issues with the crew?
Captain
Total time: 9,525 hours
CL-65 time: 4,608
FO
Total time: 3,029 hours
CL-65 time: 1,981
According to
the report, no training problems, no failures, and no fatigue issues.
Originally Posted by
afterburn81
I wonder what would have happened had the F.O. NOT moved the flaps while in a t/o configuration. I'm not sure of the runway length but I would imagine they would have been able to lift off before they reached the end had neither of them noticed the flaps were not set correctly.
Well, from the CVR ...
16:09:02 - takeoff data forty four thousand pounds. flaps eight twenty seven twenty
eight thirty four seventy three eighty seven point eight set.
It was the captain who moved the flaps. Based solely on the speed book, it looks like their data was based on flaps 20, but the FO had flaps 8 in his head. How much of an actual difference is there between flaps 20 and flaps 8 speeds when the numbers come across the ACARS? Based on the speed book, there is only about a 10 kt difference. According to
the FDR, the highest recorded ground speed was 142 kts.
