Originally Posted by
BZNpilot248
I for one hope they didn't get canned for it. Yes there were definite things wrong with what they did but could happen to many of us.
Originally Posted by
ColdWhiskey
With that being said, I think it could have happened to many of us. They have paid a huge price. Get them retrained and get them back in the cockpit. And let's all take 'sterile' more seriously. But most important I beleive is proper checklist discipline. I see too many people just read/or recite from memory the checklist, and say from memory the proper response, without actually verifying the checklist item.
I think you two are very wrong. These guys should be fired. They blatantly did not follow procedure, and then the PIC aborted above V1 -- something every pilot is taught not to do unless the aircraft is incapable of flight. And that was not the case here. Thank God for EMAS or this would have been another big black mark against our profession. Those passengers are very lucky these Chatty Kathys didn't kill or injure them.
Originally Posted by
80ktsClamp
This illustrates why whenever I respond to a checklist, I physically touch the item being called out and verify its position.
For flaps I always point to the flaps required on the performance, and then move to the lever to verify they agree.
+1 80ktsClamp ... I do the same thing too.
Originally Posted by
BlueMoon
Heard of a 767 that landed on a taxiway instead of a runway...just saying S#$t happens to everyone.
You need to grow up and stop trying to legitamize aircrew errors/accidents because of the errors made by other aircrew -- even if it happened to a major airline aircrew.
If you don't see or understand the difference between this crew and that of one who had a medical emergency onboard after flying all night for an early morning landing and then suddenly be given a sidestep to a runway with no ALS operating and overshot it and landed on the parallel taxiway ... I think you have some big issues. Clearly you aren't capable of having an honest and intellectual conversation about aviation accidents.