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How much do you want to bet that 90% of the opposite pre-merger group could not even name those individuals? What did this guy do that has made him so famous and hated that he is referred to as a Nazi? Did he really murder people?
Never said Nazi, said National Socialist referring to some rather blatantly remarks reported to me made regarding N pilots by certain individuals. The leap is yours, but for the sake of civil discussion I will retract and apologize for the intentionally inflammatory remark - Godwin's law applies.
So I apologize for the "petty personal fiefdom" remark that was probably over the top, like much webboard chatter is.
Fair enough
You say my using "north" and "south" is divisive and yet you defend the demand that the negotiating committee be divided amongst "north" and "south".
Never said anything about 2-2 on the committee. The voting members of MEC, of which the majority are pre-merger DAL, held the decision in their hands - and there were enough in favor of 4 vs. 3 where it passed, as well as the unanimous election of a pre-merger DAL chairman. Seems to be the Reps are being color or compass blind regardless of your attempt to reinvent the outcome to portray it as along party lines.
You say you are trying to work and act like we are one pilot group and yet you defend the people who are working the most to generate divides.
I'm not defending either, only commenting they have elements of truth that tap into a widespread discontent. I agree it was tossing a grenade into the room and walking away. I believe Chairman Moak is visiting DTW and MSP pilot bases to address some of these concerns. If there was nothing to the claims or the sentiments I doubt he'd be making the effort.
You on the other hand are seizing on common misconceptions about the pre-merger NWA pilot group to paint all the Reps and the pre-merger MEC with broad, self serving strokes in order to drive a wedge between bridges that are being and have been built. You don't like the fact that MEC is changing, and that the two pre-merger groups are doing their own MEC melting pot that has the result of certain individuals no longer having the same control over the Reps that he used to.
You can't have it both ways. If we are one pilot group, then there should be no labels on who came from where.
I suggest you reread your post that elicited my original response.
If we are one pilot group then union leaders should quit trying to draw dividing lines. Right now I only see that from one group.
Perhaps publicly. The other side of the aisle is doing it via other means as I first commented on. Same old politics in another wrapper, and I don't see the current MEC administration much different than either of the previous ones other than slightly different tactics and degrees of success.
Both the MEC and pilot group are going to evolve into something different than either group was before, and hopefully we draw on each others strengths to become a more effective, unified group. The impression I get is we are definitely in the midst of that process.
I felt your original post was a deliberate effort to divide in order to cling to old ways and lines of control. Perhaps it would be more constructive to expedite the melting pot?