Why do folks on this forum continue to insult each other over a difference of opinion? Every time I visit APC I am once again reminded how petty we can be towards our fellow aviator. People make mistakes and nobody out there is perfect no matter how hard you try. These fellows made a bad decision and hopefully they have learned a hard lesson. Learn from it and apply the lesson they have given us to your profession. Stop the insults and name calling and try to, at least, listen to another opinion. Rock on fellow aviators and fly with a calm mind and an open heart.