True, I really don't know the arguments either way... just stating what came from an Osprey pilot. It seems like there are those that see the capabilities in the future, and those that see the problems now. Like I said before, the Phrog had 44 class A mishaps in the first 5 years. Even the old guys I've talked to said they didn't really like them at first at all.. they kept insisting they would just snap in half. However, after all this time they conclude that the CH-46 has proven itself and been a vital airframe to the USMC.