Originally Posted by
asims33
Well like so many others my concern is that what incentive to people have to put 100k into training or close to it and spend 2-5 years doing it then another 2-3 years instructing living off scraps to get to a regional that is gonna pay 19-25k for the first 2-3 years.... Its not worth it. The first thing that needs to change is the pay scale...THEN the requirements. just my opinion.
My understanding was the whole thing about the bill was to increase the SAFETY on air transport, not the pilot pay. The problem I have with the bill is look at the past major crashes by regionals... did any of them have pilots with less than 1500 hours when they crashed? Yes they got hired with less than that, but once they got 1500 hours, they could have been hired.
If we REALLY want to see pilot pay increase, I would love to see a 4 year degree in aviation, management, or aerospace e. Airlines should also look at activities outside of aviation, volunteer programs/community involvement, and college grades. These are the requirements for just about ANY PROFESSIONAL entry level job.
A garbage man or bus driver just is looked at to see if they can pass the training, then they get trained and payed 20-30k. That's all aviation is now. Can you pass the training? Good, pass it and collect your minimum wage.
However, why would any airline want to require a 4 year degree/1500 hours/volunteering? That means they WOULD have to pay more and why on gods green earth would they want THAT when they are happily paying pilot's nothing!
Disclaimer: I support the ATP rule even though I am a lowly CFI with only 500 hours. I humbly respect everyone who has gotten where they are regardless of their experience and just because our jobs may not be PERCEIVED as professional (argument above), I know everyone here IS. No flame bait, trolling or disrespect in anyway meant.
OR go to college get a degree in architecture with your 5 years and make 200k a year out of the gate...
Careful! I live with a arch grad student and if you told him the perception is archs make 200k out the door, you would have a straight edge to dig out of your skull. It's funny the misconceptions about careers. People think pilot's make 100k out the door and architects make 200k. He said (this is after 5 years of arch undergrad and grad school) in the first 3-5 years expect to make below 40k. Not until your signature goes on the designs do you make more. Hmm, sounds a like aviation, especially right seat vs left seat. I may have just disproved my entire argument above. Your post was made while I was typing the first part. Doggonit.