Originally Posted by
Nosmo King
I was told by the AWABS Help Desk at OCC that the wind updates will be exactly the same as they initial winds loaded into the Flight Plan. I havent been able to verify it because if the Flight Plan FAILS to upload (3 for 3 so far) then a Wind Update request gives you an error message.
Like I said write up each fail in detail. It may be something in the way the data package is arriving to the FMS.
We are used to working off one Flight Plan and 2 copies of the Release. Gave each guy something to write on
I know and I have heard we may go to that.......
I actually requested a copy of the ICAO strip from Dispatch, it was much easier to find all the info I wanted on a 5 line printout rather than dig thru a 3 page HOWGOZIT. I agree that MOST of the same info is there in AWABS, but at DAL-N we are used to finding most things on the release or FLight Plan.
The data block for the radio freqs etc is to the right of the waypoint. Look in the FOM for the exact location. There is/are spaces for times, fuel and radio Freqs. It took some time for me, but I finally got the hang of it.....
Also noticed the coordinates for FIR boundaries were not listed on Westbound HNL-Asia. On the P-1 Chart that is a required manual CPDLC report. In reality, if you miss the report, Tokyo rarely notices, but its still required according to Jepp.
ugh.
DAL-N flight plan at each waypoint there were spaces to record pertinent info for each waypoint crossing, you could either fill in or leave blank what you felt was necessary and you could read a HF position report from left to right verbatim. Haven't found that true of AWABS, no room to write Next Mandatory Reporting Point ETA, Following point, spot winds, OAT and turb code. Old flight plan also had TROP info on waypoint line, didnt have to dig it out of the Wind Data page printout. We did have a Wind Data Summary similar to AWABS, just seems like we had more info available on just the Flight Plan and Release without having to dig int other parts of the paper stack.
Sounds like a lot of good info. I would like to see it too.
Well, Im still waiting for my first successful Flight Plan uplink. On my flights to date, AWABS has removed all the automated TO and LDG numbers, required manual entry of Flight Plan and enroute winds, and required Voice ATIS at some stations.
Also had one airport where an intersection takeoff is the norm, but WDR didn't have the data for that intersection.
Hoping for better luck on leg number 4.
Man, I bet that pointy finger of yours is sore. I do feel for ya.