Originally Posted by
Ragtop Day
This is why ALL parts of the contract (or LOA or whatever) are important and need to be understood by the membership. I personally love the idea of gaining a percentage of the revenue, but I would vote no if it came without strong scope protections.
The fact is that the company will want more globalization, and some of that could be good for us as pilots. It is the job of our MEC to determine what will benefit us and what will not. When they decide to negotiate with the company to enter into a JV, it then becomes their job to extract as much value for our pilots as is reasonably possible. In the past this has come in the form of promises of more flying and a better balance sheet so that we can get better value in future contracts. The results have varied depending on who you talk to and are quite honestly hard (for the average line pilot) to quantify.
If the next time around we can score job/scope protections as well as a cut of the revenue it could mean thousands, if not tens of thousands, of dollars for each pilot. Each one of these JV's are worth billions to the company and DALPA has some considerable leverage when negotiating to allow one. Would the company jeopardize a multi-billion dollar deal because they don't want to pay the pilots 1 or 2% of that. I don't know, but I would like to see us tip-toe up to that line. You get nothing if you ask for nothing. I don't think anyone is trying to sell scope, just get the maximum value out of what our MEC has decided will be our course of action.
Well, I like the way you're thinking. We (you, me, and ACL) definitely agree we need to tap into the revenue, if we're the key to unlocking it. When you say "as well as" cash, you're saying you want part of the toal value of the deal in cash. There is no free "as well as" in negotiations. If you get something, it's in lieu of something else.
Cash is convertible to plenty of things outside the contract, but we can't buy indivuidual contract imporvements with our checks. And cash is taxeable. And subject to union dues.
I want
all our value to be used to protect my job, protect the growth, and make my job better. The IRS doesn't get a cut when my life is better, or my job is better. They may get a cut if I upgrade because I negotiated good job protections, but it'll only be because I've already enjoyed some privilege afforded by a good agreement.
There is enough to do in cleaning up our contract. Want a JV in China? Good. I want contractual limits on sharing growth, I want floors on block hours, and then I want things like...
A Reserve System where I'm actually not an unscheduled lineholder.
Better DC contributions.
Better 23K rights.
etc.