Originally Posted by
Superdad
Look, in order to have a legitimate argument about an issue both sides need to be grounded in reality. This industry has been around along time and there are generally accepted terms used to describe nearly all types of flying. Yours wasn't one of them. I think the arbitrators saw that.
I am not saying that NWA pilots deserve what they got or that they are morons for trying it, or anything like that. I am simply stating that I thought it was a nonsensical term that, quite frankly, weakened your sides case. You obviously disagree and I respect your opinion. That is all.
Super,
Just because the term is in-artful, it doesn't mean the argument isn't grounded in reality. It is probably the same argument that we will use if we merge with Alaska. Although I am not married to it, I am not embarrassed by it either. For you to suggest that we should be, is unnecessary. Especially when offered in response to the mere mentioning of the term, with nothing else behind it.
The SLI stuff is over. What we do not need is for anyone to imply that anyone else should be embarrassed by what their MEC/Merger committee did or didn't do or what industry standard term they did or didn't come up with.
If my sides argument was weakened by the term, great. If you think the arbitrators punished the North because of it. Outstanding. But, at this point, what's the point?
Our side tried. Your side tried. Both sides think they got screwed.
All I'm saying is that your observation is not helpful.
New K Now
Addition:
Look. I like you guys and I'm sure you guys like us. But, when it is said that there is something to be embarrassed about, I reject that. Just like you guys should reject our overtures that your procedures are backwards. From everything I've seen so far, there are some simple things we can do to avoid the flame.
North Guys:
1.) Maybe we should be more respectful when we complain about the new procedures and policies. DAL did manage to fly before the merger.
2.) Every DAL/MEC policy or pilot is not out to get us. Let's pick our battles.
3.) The SLI is over.
South Guys:
1.) Please don't tell North guys how much money the merger afforded to us, implying that it should buy our silence.
2.) The SLI is over.