Originally Posted by
johnso29
What's getting so bad about it? Less international and more domestic? It seems like when I'm in PBI guys are saying that, NYC guys in particular. They say they are going down to ATL and bouncing around there until the last day when they get up to NYC again.
The reason I don't like the 7ER category is because the reserve rules seem even worse. I'm not very educated on them, but it seems that scheduling can assign 24 hr SC's? Is that correct? And they can do them back to back? How is this justified? Is it because a crew member gets rest on an ocean crossing? What if you're assigned a domestic trip? Then the Whitlow rule and lookback applies? Could you even get a domestic trip off of a 24hr SC?
Holy crap.....my head is spinning...
On the International Jets the SC period is 24 hrs. You can be assigned a domestic rules trip as long as it complies with Whitlow. International Flag and Supplemental Operated flights (2,3, and 4 pilot) are not covered under Whitlow and therefore you do not have a maximum period between rest that is required. Remember reserve is not duty, but also not rest.
There are many two many international trips that fall in to this group. It is not because of rest on the rest seat on an 9 hrs flight. It is because currently there are no requirements for rest on these types of operations nor is there and guidance under the Whitlow letter. I have seen many pilots start SC at at 1130 one day and get called out for a six day trip an hr before that SC period ends the next day. It is all legal.