Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
I say pressure all of your CAL buddies to get a great contract that is signed NLT 12.31.2010, and APA to sign an improvement on that NLT 12.31.2011. If that happens, we stand a much better chance.
I want what you want, but realize that a few pieces need to come in to play. No Airline CEO is going to put pilot costs in the area that would be do 1.5-2 times what its competitors have. That is just the pita reality.
Gee, acl, you've "sold out" to the reasonable approach. You obviously don't get it.
Meanwhile, here is what other's think is the solution:
Originally Posted by
capncrunch
Instead of dividing the pie as you always suggest, how bout we tell management how big the pie is...
And....
Originally Posted by
capncrunch
We need to tell management what our product is worth and they can find a way to pay for it. That is not our problem. We should not price our product on what they say they have, we should tell them what it costs. They can raise the ticket prices a couple of bucks and pay for everything we want. Why sell yourself short and fight their argument?
And...
Originally Posted by
DAL 88 Driver
We have to make the case that our profession is now being compensated at grossly inappropriate levels and that it will ultimately affect safety. You simply cannot pay 1/2 for something and expect to continue to get the same quality... We have to make it clear (especially to management) that our expectations are for full restoration and that we are intensely focused on that as our objective.
So, on one side is acl, who believes in pattern bargaining.
And on the other side, are Cap'n Crunch and DAL 88 Driver who believe we simply set our price (C2K + inflation, apparently), tell management to figure out how to pay for it, and somehow convince the traveling public that a $200,000 777 Captain is only being paid half what he's worth, and they better pay the Captain double or they might die on their flight to London.
Good luck with that strategy. I just don't buy it.