Ya, all in all our ramp guys do a good job with the exception of DTW and MSP. I commute through there all the time and we're constantly having to wait for marshallers. There's always room for improvement system wide and I'm sure we could save a whole ton of money just by having rampers in position upon arrival.

Just to add a question... why is it that MSP and DTW are so slow? I understand they're IAM, but how does that make them slow? Do they think by moving like molasses that the company will be tricked into hiring more rampers thus creating more jobs? Are they trying to peave Delta management off? Do they really think by slowing down the operation that management will "see the light" and give them whatever they want? I just don't get it. Does anybody understand this? It's annoying watching a ramper cause us to lose so much money in fuel when we bust our butts to save fuel! I guess it's just something we have to deal with.