O.K. I have been gone for more than 2 years but am always interested in what is going on and how my friends are getting along at Pinnacle. As far as the fly it and grieve it mentality, that is an industry wide problem. As you probably remember a while back a few pilots decided to not fly an assignment that they knew was blatantly illegal per the contract. They were not given the contractually mandated rest period before an assignment if my memory serves me correctly. This was an extremely black and white issue with no DW comment about that is not how we interpret the contract. The company decided to fire all of them except the one smart F.O. who said he was fatigued. The company knew they did not have a leg to stand on but fired them all for insubordination. Even though the company knew they would lose this case and end up giving them all their jobs back with lost pay, the company chose to fire them for intimidation value alone. If I am not mistaken all pilots were eventually offered their jobs back and one person was smart and said I don't want it back. This is the management team that this pilot group is dealing with. I always had a lot of luck when getting an illegal assignment and being told to fly it and grieve it. I would simply put the ball right back in their court by stating: "I will not fly this assignment and grieve it later. You go ahead and issue me a "missed trip" and I will grieve the missed trip." For whatever reason schedulers were very reluctant to choose this path and would usually focus on another victim. Hang in their folks, you will eventually wear this crooked management team down and get an acceptable contract.