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Old 05-24-2010 | 10:23 PM
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Great advice in here, and it seems like you have a general grasp of it all.

The going rate for a small cabin class jet aircraft should not be less than $55k a year. That's with no other duties (other than the standard Jepps updates and the occational wipe down) . Average, I would say is $65-85/year for a jet captain. Copilot pay varies depending on his experience level and what training was involved. Bringing a low time pilot up with "0" turbine experience might deserve something as low as $35k a year if you are coming in with almost no other marketable experience, and very low if any turbine time. If you are going to be a Citation Captain... and fly for $35k a year.. It should just be a part-time, fly 100-200 hours a year job (at most), with "0" additional duties.

A full time turboprop Captain pay is at least $45k... average is closer to $55k, so you can add $10k for the jet. (My buddy is flying a single engine, PC-12 turboprop, and getting $65k, with no extra duties). What did they do for you.. did they bring you up from a 250 hour nobody?? If not, I would ask for at least $50-$55k to fly a Citation.. and that's CHEAP for them!!! A self managing, small jet captain should earn $70-$85k a year, depending on how big the company pockets are. Don't let them hold training costs over you either as part of negotiating salary. Training pilots is part of owning a bigger airplane. It's part of doing business. If you have the type already.. you can demand $60k+, if not, $50-55k is low enough. Don't help lower the market value of a pilot.

Another thing that was brought up here... you REALLY need to spell out a scope of responsibility. Contracts go both ways. Spell out flight hours per week, month, year.. and what extra pay is involved when those hours go over. Another way to do it is to write a ops manual that covers crew rest, weather mins, MEL items, etc.. that all parties involved sign off on (all pages). Then have the contract say.. "work rules in accordance with OPS manual". Flying part 91 is much different than 135. You don't have as many FARs protecting you, or as close of FAA oversight as I'm sure you know. This is a big deal. Knowing what is a reasonable expectation on both sides is key. It prevents them from taking advantage of your obvious hungry and ambitious nature. If you walk into a couple flight departments around the airport.. they will tell you what you need to know, and you will see the spectrum.

One thing you can do is write into the contract that you'll fly for $35k, but only for the first 200 hours.. then have the contract spell out that you get an additional say..... $135/ flight hour above that... (at $135/hr, each 100 hrs is an additional $13,500/yr) Also, tell them that if they want to pay commuter wages, they should just fly on the commuter. A commuter captain starts at $55k/year, and goes up to $120k+ Good luck

Last edited by cruiseclimb; 05-24-2010 at 11:02 PM.
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