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Old 06-03-2010, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bennySODC6 View Post
Whether actual flight instruction was taking place or not, I knew of several instructors who would log their time in the right seat as dual given/instruction time even with a multi rated pilot sitting left seat.
This is a shady area, and you can get in trouble. Basically as far as the FAA is concerned you can only log dual when actual legitimate instruction is occuring. For practical purposes this would include....


1. Aeronautical experience per 61 for a rating, cert, or endorsement.
2. Additional training as required to achieve PTS standards.
3. Formal proficiency requirements (FR, LDGs, IPC).
4. School, Club, FBO, or Insurance checkout/proficiency requirements.
5. Airport, Airspace, or route familiarization.
6. Obvious common sense or reasonable training for a good cause such as mountain FAM, night, etc. This would even include a low-time or rusty pilot who wanted a few hours with a baby-sitter. A private pilot could probably make a good case for bringing a CFII along for any IMC operations, since he probably never gets enough actual to stay sharp.

But two current MEI's (especially if they active instructors) who do a XC had better not go there, unless there is a very good reason for a route FAM...ie they are working for Air America and need to avoid the SA and ZSU sites.

For a route FAM, you could get away with it once. But if you keep doing the same route over and over, or do multiple XC trips better stick with Safety Pilot, not dual. SP is pretty much legal for as much as you want to do as far as I know.

While the FAA does not spot-check our logbooks for excessive dual-given, a potential employer might notice blatant abuse of dual instruction.
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