The most junior CA in LGA has been with the company about 2.5 years. That's pretty much in line with the current upgrade time. Usually an upgrade also means a base change, so you have a lot of FO's that won't upgrade until they can hold a line in the base they're currently at. Right now we're in the middle of a huge hiring trend...I wouldn't be surprised if we hit 2,000 pilots next year and that's probably going to decrease the upgrade time a little bit. Of course, it's anyones guess what'll happen next month...