Yeah, as in if you know who the bad apples are, and you probably do, the pilot group should try and get them to change their behavior before it negatively effects everyone. At my previous employers, we knew who the guys were. The difference was there was no guaranteed flow through to move these guys up. They never made it past the major interviews. Well now, that mechanism doesn't exist for XJ or CPS. They will flow up and if the behavior doesn't change on the bad apples, for better or worse, it will look bad on themselves and the groups they came from. I just got done with the schoolhouse, and I know that the flow through is not looked on favorably. It is what it is though, but you can bet there will be a microscope over the guys that flow. I think that's the gist of these posts. At least that's how I view them.