Originally Posted by Nosmo King

I'll have to disagree with you as well. Everywhere you used the word both in bold letters could just as easily have read DAL depending on whose version of cash and cash equivalent position and financials you believe.. But that debate will never be settled.

IMO pilots only have limited opportunities to obtain GREAT leverage. Mergers that management wants, LBOs that want pilot support and strikes. A strike is not a good thing but it's purpose is leverage. LBOs give you short term leverage at the possible expense of long term corporate health. Mergers give leverage depending on the circumstances surrounding them. You and I disagree quite a bit on the circumstances. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

So much for focusing the irritation on management.