Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
That may be your point, but could you answer my point please? For review, my point was that guys were asking me for detail after detail and still didn't believe it after I posted the detail. Clamp posts something with no reference other than "and I quote" and nobody questions it. Then people actually reference the post as if it was fact. You were one of them.
Do you really see no double standard there? The double standard is my point.
Carl
Carl;
I would not call it a double standard. What I call it is a bunch of guys getting absolutely miffed at the words used. Like I have tried to say it is the approach. I will not post the details of what went down on here because simply put it does not need to be here. I will state that if either side of an argument uses the nuclear option nothing ends well. It gets blown up, shows up here and people stop listen and continue to talk/type with anger that elevates to the levels it did.
This all results in guys calling you and others bed wetters, and you throwing around comments as well. What does it solve? Nada. You are irked, people are gunning for you and the dialogue ends up in the non-constructive category.
Do I call that a double standard? Nope, I call that a discussion that went emotional. I am glad that you did not name names. If you did, they would have been deleted, and it would have involved a few people getting to play a carpet dance. Was what they said correct? Nope, it just elevated the emotional response.
Carl, you are a smart guy, there are many on here that know how to licit a given response from certain individuals by going after them, but not flaming them and getting a reminder. (fine line)
The crux of this issue that we are tiptoeing around is a philosophical difference in how we run crew rest and PIC assignments. One you can deal with, the other is totally in the hands of Flight Ops Leadership. No one on here has the authority to change it, and the only way to change it is to make a very compelling case as to why they should even consider it. Stating how it is not giving a position.
In closing, argue the facts, all of us, quit the divisiveness, and for God's sake quit name calling.