
Originally Posted by
HireAstarPilots
Capital Cargo has pilots of "egregious" backgrounds on the property. There are scabs there~
I interviewed at that place in January 2002. They have people there like this butteater named Gary Walsh who tried to QUASH the union we were trying to start at Express One International. This same anus tried to kill the union that eventually formed at UPS; they kicked him out as a result!
Most of the pilots at Capital Cargo are SLAVES to their company, and they deserve our sympathy and we should try to get them hired at the places we are now, such as Fedex, UPS, Southwest, JetBlue, and a few others.
Astar,
You should really think twice before you diss your fellow ALPA breatheren... Or even fellow aviators in general.
Did you really think this through before you typed this crap? Seriously, it's dumb to generalize in this business about an entire pilot group. The Capital Air ("Cappy") pilots and FE's bravely organized under ALPA in June 2007, and I daresay, deserve everyones respect for doing so. If there are scabs there, I guarantee that there are less scabs at Cappy, than at several major airlines and other union and non-union carriers...
Why is it that when we don't like a pilot group, "they're all effen scabs"? Where do the generalizations end? 10 years ago, the generalization was that cargo pilots (Yes, Astar/DHL, too) didn't have what it took to fly for UAL, AA, DL, NWA, CAL, etc. 5 years ago UAL, AA, DL, NWA, CAL, and other unfortunates should have flown cargo.. 8 years ago NetJets was considered a "loser" job, by some, but now they make more than many majors.... How about SWA?? Remember when they were considered a "stepping stone"...? We are all where we end up and it is LUCK!!! There were Academy grads, Top Guns, etc. at Braniff, EAL, Pan Am, TWA, etc. and they too ended up on the street. There are some of "best of the best" still on the street. Aviation is a seniority list crap shoot and nice guys don't always win. Or if they do win (i.e., end up on the UPS, UAL, DAL, SWA, FDX, NJA seniority list), they can be furloughed at any time. You should know this. I understand when the uneducated public thinks less of a DC-8 or B727 cargo pilot, but you should know better.... Where we end up after various furloughs isn't always a "major", unfortunately. The pilots at Cappy might just be hanging out for something better, or they might like home basing. They might like two weeks off straight as well. Right now, there really isn't anywhere to go, so Cappy wouldn't be a bad place to lay low during this Depression. I have several friends there, and they have all worked at "worse" places, including 121 pax. carriers.
Most of us in this industry have had a reversal of fortune, including sadly and most recently nearly 100 UPS pilots and almost 500 NetJets pilots. I have had mine and I know that you have had yours, but generalizations like this are what keeps this industry a mess.
For the record, the Cappy pilots are fighting for a beach head with their contract just like Astar and everyone else had to at one time or another. Somebody has to be the " wave first ashore" at every airline. They have a pretty decent schedule (two weeks on, two weeks off), home basing, jumpseat agreements, ASAP, etc. They may not yet be what Astar once was, but then neither are most airlines now, including Astar unfortunately.
Bottom Line: Your fellow ALPA brothers at Cappy deserve more respect.
In Unity,
B727DRVR