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Old 07-02-2010 | 09:27 AM
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From: Burning the Agitprop of the Apparat
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Originally Posted by jsled
Your link shows that during the last Dem administration, 2 major airlines were allowed to strike (AMR,NWA), AMR twice!! It kinda kills the arguments on this thread that a major airline would NEVER be allowed to strike, don't you think? Oh, and btw, now that the NMB rule change is the law of the land, look for that % union number in this industry to creep up from 46% to near 50%. The Obama NMB just put a damper on your decling union theory.
"Drink my children, drink!" Jim Jones

The Kool-Aid is just the same, regardless of who is doing the pouring. Learn that and you might make some progress.


Once you understand that organizing does nothing to create jobs, you might be able to venture out to the fresh idea that a strong economy gives the most people the best chance to do well. This is not to say anything against unions, but to underline the point that putting the cart ahead of the horse won't get you very far. The petty political arguments are completely useless without the fundamentals of a strong nation and a strong economy. Politicos can do almost nothing to create this situation, but they can do a great deal to harm or cripple advancement in this area.

Logical argument to refute this point is impossible. There is a lot of Kool-Aid being poured though, on all sides.

Finally, the facts show a decline in private sector union membership has been going on for over 60 years, this puts to rest the lie that any flavor of Kool-Aid has been helpful and makes it quite clear that our position among world economies is the most important factor in both the number and types of jobs available. It helps not at all to have the best wages and working conditions in the world when you are furloughed or your company or country sinks into failure.

You want to believe that a particular flavor of Kool-Aid will bring you prosperity, but the truth is that the people pouring it have trundled prosperity out the back door while you were savoring the imagined goodness.

Last edited by jungle; 07-02-2010 at 11:21 AM.
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