Wannabe-- "Hey Dave, how are things going? I haven't seen you for a long time since that time I checked you out in the Cessna"

FedEx Pilot-- "Well pretty good. Yeah I remember that checkout. I took my bro flying after you checked me out and he had a blast."

Wannabe-- "How are things at FedEx? I heard you guys may be getting a big raise."

FedEx guy-- "Things are great. I have so much free time and extra cash. I only wish I could work at UPS."

Wannabe-- "I was wondering how you got hired there. I am finally qualified to apply and am interested in UPS, SWA, Air Tran, but I've done a lot of research and FedEx is by far my #1 choice."

FedEx guy-- "Well I had a few friends help me out. You really need someone who works here to help you..."

At this point FedEx guy knows you are fishing for some help so you don't really need to come right out and ask for the rec. Best case scenario is that he was just like Wannabe before he got hired and knows he was helped and feels an obligation to pass it on. Worst case scenario he feels a little annoyed because you are the 10th person to hit him up. As far as jumpseaters go, I would just try to create a dialogue where you could ask additional questions via email. Anything to make a connection that could grow. Just remember that UPS/FedEx/ABX are making record profits and all have contracts coming due. These jobs could secure your financial/professional future along with your kids and grandkids. Is a little groveling worth it? I thought so.

I called up 4 guys that I had not spoken to in almost 5 years. 4 of them hooked me up and the last 1 did not remember me. I got hired at UPS and SWA and was offered the grip and grin at FedEx after I had been at Brown for 5 months.