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Old 08-18-2010 | 05:59 AM
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jsled
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Originally Posted by A320fumes
By default, DAL/NWA was done on relative seniority. The comparable WB/NB ratios might lead one to believe that Category/Status ratio is referenced in their SLI. The disparagy between CAL/UAL WB/NB fleet ratios, don't allow fair juxtaposition of status and relative Sr.

Consider 2 factors. 1, Not all pilots consider super-long haul on the 777 desirable. Personally, I've spent way too many days with 17 hours at FL430. I could fly the 75/76 until I retire. I never want to spend more than 7.5 hours above fl280 again if possible. 2, CAL NB's pay more than UAL WB's, in most cases, anyway. The whole equipment argument is based on the premise that larger a/c pay better rates; not the case in this merger. My family would prefer I fly a SWA guppy or Jetblue A-320 above 80hrs than a UAL whale.

Lastly, I went through the UAL/AAA merger in 2000. It failed against popular coronation. I hope this merger fails as well, because there is nothing in it for the majority of my pilot group. I think that UAL could be a great stand-alone company with the best pilot group. But your management has neither the ability or desire to be the great airline that UAL should be. Fckng Shame. Bless us all.
1) I am not led to believe anything. I just read it verbatim from the DAL/NWA SLI award.....page 28..

"Summarizing, based on the record in its entirety, we conclude a four-category list, constructed on a Status and Category/Ratio basis, will properly respond to the demands of fairness and equity in the context of these particular facts."



2) If you think "Not all pilots consider super-long haul on the 777 desirable" will affect the sli, you are mistaken. That is comical.



3) <<CAL NB's pay more than UAL WB's, in most cases, anyway. The whole equipment argument is based on the premise that larger a/c pay better rates; not the case in this merger.>>

Where do you come up with this stuff? the Facts are: UAL's w/b rates are $190/132 per hr. That is $-3/-2 or a whopping 1.5% less than CALs w/b rates. The difference is UAL has WAAAY more w/b's than CAL, thus more guys earning those rates. CAL's n/b rates are nowhere near $190/132.

Last edited by jsled; 08-18-2010 at 06:31 AM.
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