Originally Posted by
jsled
3) <<CAL NB's pay more than UAL WB's, in most cases, anyway. The whole equipment argument is based on the premise that larger a/c pay better rates; not the case in this merger.>>
Where do you come up with this stuff? the Facts are: UAL's w/b rates are $190/132 per hr. That is $-3/-2 or a whopping 1.5% less than CALs w/b rates. The difference is UAL has WAAAY more w/b's than CAL, thus more guys earning those rates. CAL's n/b rates are nowhere near $190/132.
No dog in this fight, but just a point of fact, according to APC:
UAL has 78 aircraft paying max rate of 190/130,
CAL has 48 aircraft paying max rate of 193/132.
UAL has 132 aircraft paying max rate of 159/109
CAL has 221 aircraft paying max rate of 169/116
UAL has 152 aircraft paying max rate of 137/94
CAL has 76 aircraft paying max rate of 150/102
(CAL 737 Fleet average (2/3 LN, 1/3SN) 162/111)
of those
UAL has 35 767s in the middle pay band
CAL has 26 767s paying the top rate,
Short call reserve at CAL puts their 737-500 drivers ahead of UAL's 767 drivers in terms of guarantee.
UAL has 40% more aircraft @ the WB rate,
and 100% more aircraft at the SN rate.
Whereas CAL has 60% more 'middle class' aircraft.
UAL has a larger 'upper class', and a much larger 'lower class'.
But CAL's 'lower class' make almost the same as UAL's middle class.
(only about $3-400/month less on guarantee)
Given that CAL's pilots are cross utilized on small and large 737s, it certainly appears that almost all CAL drivers make as much as or more than UALs 767 drivers.
Or in other words, all CAL pilots have a better pay rate than 79% of UAL pilots.