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Old 08-19-2010 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
Cut off your nose to spite your face...

Do you think WestAir would have been better off if Skywest had bought them?

You and I simply disagree on this. If given the choice of Skywest or Mesa, I would rather work for Skywest. You would rather have that ALPA card in your wallet while JO bends you over....
Yes, I would rather be part of one list with Mesa then two with SKW. We are already whipsawed by the mainline. No good reason why we should be part of being whipsawed by our own regional management as well. I have no problems disagreeing with anybody on this. I'm not married to this company or profession. Until pilots are willing to stand up and say enough is enough, management is going to continue cheering our race to the bottom. If more pilots had a backup plan they would be more willing to finally draw the line.

Originally Posted by duvie
Tell me one instance where JA has whipsawed SkyWest and ASA. Honestly, it hasn't happened and many of you XJT guys are frustrated that you used to be a first class airline and now CAL has reduced you to operating at a loss. This merger is good for all of us, don't bite the hand that feeds
Didn't some 700s that were slated to go to ASA during contract negotiations go to SKW instead? Do you think there is a reason why you gave up something to get language in your contract that prevents SKW from transferring aircraft without pilots?

Anyways, XJT has already been whipsawd by CAL with the helps of JA. That is why we were decimated. CAL told our CEO to either give them the cpa SKW had negotiated or get the 12 months notice. The cpa SKW negotiated with CAL not only included synergy cost savings but also took into consideration a 16% paycut JA wanted to give us in order to bring us into parity with SKW pilot compensation so that we can be cost competative when CAL put all 205 A/C up for bid again in 12 months. JA said himself his intention was to put up three bids for those 205 A/C. One from XJT, one from ASA, and one from SKW...but it was up to us if we wanted to be cost competitive. That on top of the fact that he was planning on taking 35 of XJT A/C and transferring them to SKW for their pilots to fly while furloughing 700 of ours and giving them preferential interviews at SKW.

Maybe you don't think you have been whipsawed but XJT definitely with JA's help.
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