Going across the Pacific isn't rocket surgery. It's on airways Class II navigation... no plotting chart required. (I found it interesting when they insisted on doing one anyway.. but to each his own) The main reason that -ER guys were going along (I being one of them) is that the fNWA guys had little if any experience flying over water.. and NONE in the -ER. A whale or -330 guy would have been a total waste of time and money.