Originally Posted by
Jughead
OK I'm glad someone else said this, because I thought the same thing about 700 pages ago when this surfaced as an issue. There it is: the flight plan, neatly folded and tucked on the dashboard, under the rear-view mirror. Weather sheet ripped off and smartly stowed in the fold of the jumpseat. I looked at it for MEL items, entered the flight plan, checked fixes with the FMS, required fuel on board, and perused dispatcher remarks/NOTAMS. What else makes this worthy of two copies? Do we each need our own?
I'm not fNWA...I get that...but what am I missing?

Heyas,
Before we launch off into another "discussion" about this, remember that the "release" at NWA had a completely different set/presentation of information that DAL had/has.
The release itself was only about 12 inches long. Three were printed, one was signed and left with the agent. The weather, notams, and the flight plan (roughly equivilent to the howgozit, but with more information) were only printed once.
On the release, there was also a section on fuel planning. NWA used the "EFOA - estimated fuel on arrival" technique, which made calculating your fuel, when holding or being delayed, a snap (the flight plan contained "burn to go" data).
What I have found is generally when I'm loading the FMS, the other guy wants to look at the MELs. If he/she is trying to verify the fuel, I'm trying to make sure the routing is correct.
It's pretty pointless to argue this point. Guys are going to believe what they want to, and unless you've flown with both systems, you mostly make your "observations" from fourth or fifth hand "information".
Nu