Old 09-09-2010 | 06:07 AM
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Boeing forecasts that over the next twenty years airlines will have 36% more aircraft (including retirements) and no growth in the regional market. 50 seat aircraft will be nearly eliminated, 70 seat aircraft will be reduced by approximately 40%.
Let's take this tidbit first. So Boeing says airlines will have 35% more aircraft. Interesting statement from a manufacturer! Telling people there will be a greater demand for YOUR product is what these companies do. If you ask a FORD dealer, he will tell you that xxx number of people will be buying cars and xxx number of people will be needing to replace a car. Please tell me you are not so blinded by a sell job by Boeing that you actually believe this stuff? I bet you are intrigued by the Home Shopping Network at 3am.

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CAL will soon cancel the A350 orders and replace them with an all Boeing order. UCAL will be an all Boeing entity. The only exception will be approximately 125 Embraer jets.
If you don't mind I'll wait for the order to be announced. I suspect these airplanes being ordered are part of the group of purported A320's and A321's sitting in Toulouse in United colors that was floating around for the longest time. Anyone else remember that rumor?

While scope restoration may sound like a good deal, it is a throwaway for the company and a great bargaining tool for a concessionary contract. (While 30% pay raises may not seem concessionary,
I hardly think scope is a throwaway for the company. Heck they would outsource their mothers if they could. No reason this is not a fight to keep the scope CAL has. To say it has zero monetary value shows a complete lack of comprehension of negotiations on your behalf. I certainly hope others can see this too.


I mentioned 3 regionals going away in the short term. One has gone, another is going and one more will be gone in the next six to nine months. Over the next 5 years, seven more regionals will be gone.
I am all for fewer regionals and less express flying. But I have to call your bluff. You are talking about regionals going away. Please name the ones that are disappearing? Sure there is merging going on at the regional level but it is to shore up their bargaining power. They will be able to seek better terms if there are fewer of those companies vying for the contracts and they can steady the rates by having fewer entities. They are not removing companies, they are bulking up. A scary thought and a darn good reason the major carriers need to get out of ALPA and form their own unions. ALPA can not support both pilot groups interest.

I would comment on the rest of your post but it is just as bogus as the above. I am going to go out on a limb and say that you will not live long enough to see C2K rates again at UA. There just won't be enough contracts put in place before all of us die to ever see those rates again.

Finally, since you are now touting 40+% raises and airplane orders are you now changing your stance and saying we should vote yes on the Oct agreement? Or should we vote NO since we always get something better on the second try? You are contradicting yourself daily so please keep us in the loop on what we should be doing....LOL!!!

You banter is so much like that shamed and ridiculed forumite JB, that the similarities are frightening. My guess is that if you truly are JB then you are being fed a line of BS by someone to spin you up and see where you fling your poo. This site appears to be your target and they have now been able to locate where the mole resides.......
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