Originally Posted by
sailingfun
I would suggest you actually go back and read what ALPA suggested. Yes there was a 9 hour max however only if scheduled in your body cycle. Non of the current flights to Europe fit that. In fact with the normal departure and arrival times in Europe the ALPA proposal restricts the flight time to 7 hours before a relief pilot has to be onboard. It will increase not decrease jobs and augmented flights.
Huh? Are we talking about the same thing here? Now that the proposed rules are out, and closely mirror the ALPA proposal, let's take an example shall we?
IAD-BRU. Leaves around 5PM, so max duty un-augmented is 13 hours and 10 hours (ridiculous) of flight time. No problem.
BRU-IAD. Time change is 6 hours. Scheduled departure is 12 noon, or 6 AM body clock time. Showtime is 1.5 prior, so 4:30AM. Flight time is 8:15, so illegal for 2 pilots.
But what if UAL moves the departure back to 12:30, which still easily feeds the bank in IAD? Then the show time is 5AM, which allows for 9 hours of flight time and 11 hours of duty, both easily accomplished. Do you think UAL would move the departure time back 30 min if it meant saving a pilot?? Hell, the thing left at 12:37 today and will have no problem with connections. Most Europe destinations will now be doable with 2 pilots with minor schedule tweaking.
Thanks ALPA. How many more mainline jobs is this going to cost?