Originally Posted by 1900luxuryliner

As someone who has had the opportunity of constantly and consistantly operating to the absolute minimums of the rest regulations, this is my opinion. It's the bottom feeders that are a big part of what make this necessary. Those airlines that view the minimum regulations as an operational goal, rather than minimums to be rarely used, and only during IROPs; those airlines who have absolutely no regard for safety, beyond what the regulations require. You might say,"Hey, your airline is just trying to make money." Yes, but how much further ahead will they be, when we pile one in? Trading safety for money; it's not a wise investment. I have flown 12 legs in a day. I have waited 1.5 hours for a hotel shuttle during reduced rest, to operate 8 legs the next day, with a dead-head thrown in there. I have flown all night (6 legs, 15 hours of duty) on a stand-up overnight that was originally scheduled for 4 legs (with added repos/ flagstops, etc.). I have made numerous informational reports to my company, regarding fatiguing pairings and schedules, and have never received any acknowledgement, or response. These are just a few of the situations that I seem to always find myself in. Why do I not call in fatigued? If I called in fatigued for every fatiguing situation I'm placed in, I don't think I would ever complete a trip. Sometimes, you just don't know you're fatigued until you're in the aircraft, at the controls, and start noticing how many things you are missing; how poor your situational awareness is becoming; how poor your scan is, etc. Plus, start making numerous fatigue calls, and you can certainly expect to be on the company blacklist...good luck on your next PC, buddy, and you can forget about ever having the opportunity to make LCA. Yes, I operate under a crappy CBA. However, the level of safety of my passengers shouldn't be so heavily dependent on the quality of my CBA. Passengers don't buy tickets based upon the scheduling rules in a CBA. They buy tickets fully expecting that all airlines operate under the same level of safety, whether it's a bottom feeder, or top of the industry. For those who have operated to the very minimums of the regulations on a constant basis, I'm sure you understand what I'm talking about.