Originally Posted by
gettinbumped
Huh? Are we talking about the same thing here? Now that the proposed rules are out, and closely mirror the ALPA proposal, let's take an example shall we?
IAD-BRU. Leaves around 5PM, so max duty un-augmented is 13 hours and 10 hours (ridiculous) of flight time. No problem.
BRU-IAD. Time change is 6 hours. Scheduled departure is 12 noon, or 6 AM body clock time. Showtime is 1.5 prior, so 4:30AM. Flight time is 8:15, so illegal for 2 pilots.
But what if UAL moves the departure back to 12:30, which still easily feeds the bank in IAD? Then the show time is 5AM, which allows for 9 hours of flight time and 11 hours of duty, both easily accomplished. Do you think UAL would move the departure time back 30 min if it meant saving a pilot?? Hell, the thing left at 12:37 today and will have no problem with connections. Most Europe destinations will now be doable with 2 pilots with minor schedule tweaking.
Thanks ALPA. How many more mainline jobs is this going to cost?
I'm glad someone could put an actual pairing up here to back me up. People talked about how these rules would increase staffing but as of right now I don't see how it won't decrease staffing. If all they have to do is push back the departure time 30 minutes, it a no brainer what their going to do. Its funny how the creating of these rules were based on pilots working to long and hard and now fewer pilots will be needed to do the same amount of flying.