Originally Posted by
Andy
DEFINITELY the wrong word. It makes you sound like a pr!ck.
I assume that you're referring to the PID (policy initiation date), not the SLI. Two different things. PID is defined by ALPA as: The date on which the respective MEC Chairmen and the Executive Council determine that a reasonable probability of a merger being consummated exists or the date on which the Executive Council determines that a reasonable probability of a merger being consummated exists, whichever is earlier. Seniority list integration procedures will commence on the Policy Initiation Date.
If you're suggesting that a reasonable probability of a merger being consummated does not yet exist, you would have a valid case for a blanket stapling of UAL furloughees. However, I doubt that case could be made in court.
Andy, I sure as heck didnt say anything to sound like a prick. So I am sorry if it sounds that way. I am sure that no UAL guy will take the offer.
As to the rest of your post, point taken. However I see no other word to use to replace goodwill. Either it is 100% goodwill or one of the groups gave something up for it. No one, and I mean NO ONE, does anything in this business for ****s and giggles. CAL could easily hire 50 guys that have just been laid off from Comair or from a thousand other unemployed professional pilots for $100 less an hour. We are two companies right now. I assume no furloughed UAL pilot will take the offer and simultaneously complain that they, with 9 to 90 years, will be placed behind any CAL pilot- as all CAL pilots have been recalled on this bid. And not just recalled on paper, but actually filling the ridiculous staffing we have suffered since 911- 9 years ago. Call me a prick, I dont care, but this is a business. And I dont see UAL guys racing to offer SFO or LAX slots to our guys as a trade. One good quarter and all of a sudden we are a merger of equals. We can all sing Kumbayah, but this is a business. The word from the team is that CAL pilots recalled on this bid will be considered active for purposes of SLI and those currently furloughed at UAL will not. Now I too would be ****ed if I was UAL. There has to be a line with career expectations. And decisions made in bankruptcy court to ground half your narrowbody fleet doesnt give one the argument to say that half your seniority list is now closer to widebody positions. Too many people remember the UAL TORQUE campaigns and "brain surgeon" comments. This is a business and I hold nothing against any other pilot for fighting for every dime.