ATL, I wasn't saying that the PIC type was a bad idea. I actually like the idea. My comment was more-so in terms of how no regional would actually do that for the FO's. Why? Because like you said, they would get the type and run with it. Thats also the reason why they won't give FO's an ATP with the SIC type. It's essentially the same ride, but they won't give an ATP (maybe a few exceptions, but Eagle won't) and they would never even consider giving a full PIC type.